TASK FORCE ON COMMUNITY HOUSING MEETING
An Open meeting of the Mayor’s Task
Force on Community Housing was held in Rooms 104 and 211, Shadbolt Centre for
the Arts, 6450 Deer Lake Avenue, Burnaby, B.C. on Thursday, 2019 March 14
at 4:00 p.m.
Councillor Pietro Calendino, Chair
His Worship, Mayor Mike Hurley, Vice
Councillor Joe Keithley, Member
Councillor James Wang, Member
Mr. Thom Armstrong, Member
Mr. Mike Bosa, Member
Mr. Patrick Buchannon, Member
Ms. Lois Budd, Member (arrived
at 4:20 p.m.)
Mr. Paul Holden, Member
Mr. Beau Jarvis, Member
Dr. Paul Kershaw, Member
Mr. Brian McCauley, Member
Ms. Anne McMullin, Member
Mr. Murray Martin, Member
Ms. Kari Michaels, Member
Ms. Claire Preston, Member
Mr. Daniel Tetrault, Member
Councillor Sav Dhaliwal, Member
Ms. Shauna Sylvester, Centre for
Ms. Michelle Bested, Centre for
Mr. Lambert Chu, City Manager
Mr. Dipak Dattani, Director
Mr. Ed Kozak, Deputy Director
Planning and Building
Ms. Lee-Ann Garnett, Asst.
Director – Long Range Planning
Ms. Lily Ford, Planner – Housing
Mr. David Clutton, Long Range
Eberle, Housing Consultant
Mr. Jim Wolf,
Senior Long Range Planner
Schuk, Social Planner
O’Connell, City Clerk
Prior, Administrative Officer
The Chair called the Open Task Force
meeting to order at 4:02 p.m.
The Chair acknowledged the unceded,
traditional, and ancestral lands of the
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speaking people, and extended appreciation for the opportunity to hold a
meeting on this shared Coast Salish territory.
MOVED BY Councillor
mR. paul Holden
THAT the minutes of the Mayor’s Task
Force on Community Housing Open meeting held on 2019 February 27 be adopted.
3. OPENING REMARKS
His Worship, Mayor Mike
the following opening remarks:
back to the Shadbolt Centre for our second Task Force meeting. I appreciate
your continued commitment and the work you have put in so far.
week about 100 Burnaby residents met at the Nikkei Centre at the first public
engagement session on housing – the Ideas Workshop. We met during a snow storm
which made it hard for some people to attend, mainly families with children. A group
I am determined to serve well.
We have also received about
1,400 Housing Ideas surveys containing thousands of ideas. This strong
community response makes it the most successful single survey the City has ever
We were pleased to see that
the response generally reflects the mix of people within Burnaby – income, age,
and mix of renters and home owners. There are two notable exceptions – people
under 30 and people with incomes below $20,000.
Since our last meeting,
Burnaby staff, Centre for Dialogue staff, and I have put our heads together to
make sure we are doing everything possible to reach groups who don’t usually
attend public outreach events or respond to online surveys.
I want to make sure we hear
the voices of families, seniors, newcomers and others we don’t normally hear
from. That is why we are expanding on the outreach efforts we have already
planned and have linked with community groups to hear from more seniors who are
renters, people with low-incomes, newcomers and others.
As promised, you will
receive a report on the results of the community outreach, a key resource for
this Task Force, before you begin drafting recommendations for Council.
My message for you today is
to remember who we serve and why we are doing this work. As our facilitators
have pointed out, we need to hear a range of perspectives beyond our own
experience to achieve the solutions we need. I really appreciate your
willingness to listen to those perspectives and consider new points of view.
Thank you again for
volunteering your time and energy.”
Councillor Pietro Calendino delivered the following
address to the Task Force:
Mayor Hurley. I will take this opportunity to also thank all the members of
this Task Force for the very productive first session of two weeks ago.
was very packed with an incredible amount of information that hopefully most of
you were able to digest during the last 15 days, but if not you will have a few
more weeks to internalize everything and formulate magical ideas that will help
us find solutions to the spectrum of housing in Burnaby.
Now, to put
things in context, I believe that the last meeting and this one are focused on
orientation. If you are wondering why, let me say that this time spent on
informative tasks is most essential as it will help ground and inform our work
going forward. Staff has circulated background materials to Task Force members
and we hope you have been able to review this information.
A special thank
you to the City of Burnaby Planning and Building Department staff for putting
together answers to the comprehensive list of questions raised by Task Force
members at the first meeting. Please be sure to take a moment to review these,
if you haven’t yet.
A hearty thank
you also to Shauna Sylvester, our facilitator, for keeping us in line and
engaged, and to the other members of the Simon Fraser Wosk’s Centre for
Dialogue, Robin Prest & Michelle Bested, for doing the community engagement
parallel to our work.
We are moving
at a torrid pace, but the eyes of the public and the industry are on us and
they are looking for results. So there is no rest for the wicked.
This evening we
will be moving deeper into Task Force orientation. We’ll look specifically at
Burnaby’s housing history and existing housing stock. Both of which are
fundamental knowledge sources for us moving forward towards housing
Next meeting we
will start looking at generating ideas and quick starts.
With that, I
would like to hand the show over to Shauna.”
Facilitator: Ms. Shauna Sylvester,
Centre for Dialogue, Simon Fraser University
Ms. Sylvester outlined the agenda for
the evening. The speaker introduced staff in attendance and extended her
appreciation for the work and commitment by the Task Force members and staff.
Ms. Sylvester requested that Task
Force members bring forward one compelling question or comment based on the
first meeting of the Task Force and readings that were circulated prior to the
2019 March 14 meeting. The following are responses from the members:
materials and information presented in the first meeting were a useful
exercise in understanding where we are now and where we came from.
clarification regarding the response provided by City staff to the following
question: ‘How many rental/units/homes are in Burnaby’s development approval
o Requested staff identify
any loss of rental housing resulting from rezoning and development
o Questioned why
developments that have not yet been approved are included in the rental unit
at the low number of town/row homes and the obvious gap in this type of
if any of the $660 million generated through the density bonus program has
been spent and why only 20% is allocated to the Community Benefit Bonus
single solution, but instead a comprehensive plan. The committee will take
six months to develop the strategy but people are waiting now. Is it possible
to develop some preliminary plans to guide staff while this process is
much is in the Community Benefit Bonus Housing Fund and how much has been
this Task Force recommend ways of using the Community Benefit Bonus Housing
Fund in an economic and manageable way to provide sufficient affordable
is suffering the same challenges as other cities, outdated housing policies,
limited supply which is contributing to rising prices. Outdated taxation
policies by other levels of government have also impacted demand and prices.
many purpose built rentals are in the Metrotown area? How was the number
clarification regarding Community Amenity Contributions versus a Community
Benefit Bonus Policy. How do the funds collected by Burnaby compare to other
between housing and planning – when we get to the point of making
recommendations, to what extent will the recommendations be limited by
existing zoning? How proactive are we going to be to ensure that the
recommendations can be implemented without delay due to existing zoning?
understand the fundamentals of building and operating rental apartment
buildings, both nonprofit and market rental? It is very important we
understand this. We should almost be doing a ‘rental 101’.
*Lois Budd arrived
at the meeting at 4:20*
why projects that have not been approved are included in the inventory of 51
new housing projects listed in the City’s fact sheet.
is not alone; other municipalities are also faced with the same challenges.
Private sector is not the enemy; it is possible to work together. Housing
needs to be done at scale and we need to with other levels of government.
reference to Responses to Questions from Meeting #1, page 3: When
proposed developments are discussed, such as 4475 Grange; could you also cite
if there are currently occupied homes? Could you put a footnote or sentence
acknowledging the number of rentals and the current rents, if known?
reference to Responses to Questions from Meeting #1, page 4: 6,101 is
the listed number of purpose built rentals since Burnaby gave a number of
2,992 in the same area. If we could get a list of buildings with number of
units in the area to confirm this would be helpful.
reference to Responses to Questions from Meeting #1, page 4: Could we
have addresses of the three purpose built rentals under construction?
many purpose built rentals have been built by decade (units included) and
list of buildings by address?
market housing – could we get the numbers of what non market rental means?
Staff will undertake to respond to
the questions raised.
Facilitator: Ms. Shauna Sylvester,
Centre for Dialogue, Simon Fraser
Ms. Sylvester reviewed the Draft
Process Diagram which outlined the approach, topics, learning and
outcomes that will take place throughout the course of the Task Force.
Process Diagram provided Task Force members with meeting and Community
Workshops dates, meeting themes and outputs. The Task Force will work towards
finalizing an interim report (quick starts) to Council for May, with a final
report (long-term recommendations, implementation plan) in July of 2019.
The speaker queried if
the Task Force members would be interested in participating in site visits of
examples of community housing. As most members indicated their interest in
site visits, the speaker advised she would look into the opportunity.
1 - HISTORICAL TIMELINE
Burnaby’s Housing Historical
was posted in the meeting room outlining events, policies and actors that
have impacted housing in Burnaby.
Task Force members were requested to
identify and add events, policies and actors that shaped their perspective of
Burnaby. The timeline was broken down into periods ranging from pre-contact
to present and the Task Force members discussed the impact of the various
events, policies and actors on housing in Burnaby.
MOVED BY MS. KARI
SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR JAMES WANG
THAT the Open Task Force meeting recess
for 5 minutes and reconvene in Room 211.
The Open Task Force meeting recessed
at 5:28 p.m.
MOVED BY MS. CLAIRE PRESTON
SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR JOE KEITHLEY
THAT the Open Task Force meeting do
The Open Task Force meeting reconvened
at 5:39 p.m. in Room 211.
2 – ASSETS MAPPING
Ms. Sylvester posted 12
asset mapping themes on flip chart paper on the wall and requested Task Force
members populate each page with assets that Burnaby currently has, or do not
exist. Asset mapping themes included:
o Zoning Policies/Regulations
o Other Levels of Government
o Social Economy (Co-ops,
Unions, Social Enterprises)
o Private Sector
o Data, Information,
o Civil Society (e.g.
Non-profits, Community Organizations, Faith Organizations)
o Built Environment
o Public Facilities and
The Task Force members were
then divided into four table groups, responsible for three themes each. The
table groups were requested to identify any missing assets.
At the conclusion of the
group discussions, a representative from each table presented a brief synopsis
of their themes to the other members of the Task Force.
Ms. CLAIRE PRESTON
COUNCILLOR JOE KEITHLEY
THAT the Open Task Force meeting
recess until 6:45 p.m.
The Open Task Force
meeting recessed at 6:20 p.m.
MOVED BY MS. LOIS BUDD
SECONDED BY MAYOR MIKE
THAT the Open Task Force
meeting do now reconvene.
The Open Task Force meeting
reconvened at 6:47 p.m.
SESSION 3 – SMALL GROUP INFORMATION
Ms. Sylvester requested
that the Task Force divide themselves into four table groups/salons. Staff from
the Planning and Building Department assisted with the facilitation of
discussion and documentation of questions, issues and solutions related to the
following salon table topics:
Land Use (Development)
Housing (non-market rental, co-op and supportive housing)
Ms. Shauna Sylvester advised that the next
meeting would involve generating ideas for “quick starts” by drawing on
information from the completed online Housing Ideas Survey, input from
the Community Ideas Workshop, information from other jurisdictions and
The speaker distributed the
following reading materials to the Task Force to be reviewed prior to the
o Innovative Ideas for
Burnaby Mayor’s Task Force on Community Housing – Margaret Eberle
o Briefing for Mayor’s Task
Force on Affordable Housing – City of Burnaby – Kira Gerwing, Vancity
o Canadian Mortgage and
Housing Corporation (CMHC) and the National Housing Strategy (NHS) – Lance Jakubec, CMHC
o Some Thoughts for the
Burnaby Affordable Housing Task Force – Michael Geller
for Burnaby Affordable Housing Task Force – Robert Brown, Catalyst
Community Development Society
Ms. Shauna Sylvester requested that Task
Force members verbalize their thoughts on the meeting. Task Force member’s
comments were as follows:
other people’s perspective and about other people’s ideas.
perspectives, profit, non-profit.
and willingness to contribute from different perspectives.
alignment and open mindedness, open to new ideas.
the salon model and the opportunity to get more in depth conversations.
opportunity to dig down, but would like more time.
format was great, allowed more time for the discussion.
the salon, but not the wall exercise, improve presentation.
the salon format with small groups, learned more about zoning, what you can
and can’t do.
format was great, and appreciated access to city staff and to hear their
of staff with task force, enjoyed the small group conversation, did not like
the one comment, one question.
other people’s perspectives.
was productive, hear other people’s perspectives, housing provider verses
housing occupier; symbiotic relationship; common ground is necessary.
having staff contribute to the conversation.
about members becoming too positional.
the format, but would appreciate more advanced notice of the topics so members
can come better prepared.
o Exciting to hear
different people’s views, everyone brings different ideas and perspective;
o Interesting ideas and
initiatives being brought forward;
o Opportunity to sit with
the community outside of the office thereby removing the barriers that staff
sometimes feel they work within; and
o Felt like part of
continuum and involved in a historical process.
Councillor Calendino advised that staff will
respond to questions raised at the beginning of the meeting. The speaker
requested that staff investigate the possibility of a document sharing site
to allow members of the Task Force to share information, and that staff
provide an updated version of the timeline to include comments from the Task
Staff will undertake to respond to
Mayor mike hurley
councillor Joe Keithley
THAT this Open Task Force meeting do
The Open Committee meeting adjourned